Friday, January 24, 2014

The Jack Hobbs Debacle

For the whole of January I have restrained from having my say on whats been happening with Hobbs. Following the too and fro about where his future is lying and what or wasn't the deal we had in place for the central defender was.

Until today.

Today it has all reached a head. Hobbs was recalled by Hull, as we all know by now. We also all know that last week Fawaz tweeted he had reached a deal with Hull for the defender. So something in that time has changed or gone wrong.

Here is where the conjecture starts in earnest.

On the one hand there are those who have seen this for what it potentially is. Hull have a defensive cover crisis with the James Chester injury. They have a defender very much in form who they had a right to recall from his loan as there was no permanent deal in place. They have done as much today. They are within their rights, he is their property.

Then there are those who believe there are more sinister forces at work in all of this. That Hull are forcing our hand to go for a deal now instead of all the wrangling that has been going off up till now. They want us to fork out that fee now, rather than the potential arrangements (believed to a be a fee payable once h completes his loan to avoid paying a percentage to Leicester in sell on fees.) Again they are within their rights to do so, but the waters of how morale this get a little murky.

There is also an argument to say that Hobbs stock has risen and when he negotiated with Forest on the deal it wasn't the same terms he had agreed in the summer on the longevity of the deal. Reading were willing to pay more. Hobbs therefore wanted to be paid more (and again rightly so, but then reneging on a gentleman's agreement it seems) And therefore we were not able to finalise a deal meaning he returns to Hull.

All of which must be of interest to Reading. Surely they will make a new move.,

Unless of course this was all a legit move to bring back cover for injuries, in which case it's all academic.

Whats apparent is we should have stopped wrangling and just got a deal in place, but then there's new arguments on trying to get value or just stumping large pots of cash for deals which might not be best value.

Confused? I am. It all makes sense but thinking off all the various permutations and consequences of this just addles to brain.

What is apparent is Hobbs is now no longer at present a Forest player.

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Transfer Rumour Roundup


Here is a roundup of the latest stuff doing the rounds… Ins and outs this time

Incoming


Graham
Danny Graham
Strong rumours are we are to sign Danny Graham from Sunderland currently on loan from Sunderland. Graham has had a tough couple of years in front of goal and Sunderland might think dropping a level will be able to instigate some form. Graham had better days with Watford and Swansea so has good form in the past and in the Championship. He would be a good signing, if allowed time to find his feet.

Chris Baird
Northern Irish defender who was on a short team deal with Reading which has expired. Due to injury Reading have delayed offering an extension. Therefore he is a free agent. What with a number of defensive injuries Davies might see him as more than adequate coverage in defence. It could mean Lascelles is off, but I think that unlikely.  Baird is versatile so can play in midfield and at all full back which would be of interest to Forest. For freebie he’d be a wonderful signing.

Bradley
Sonny Bradley
Sonny is a 22 year defender for Portsmouth who this week has been linked. He was released by Hull in the summer and has been playing in League Two for struggling Pompey this season. Being from the north (Hull) he may further a move from the south coast closer to home. To be honest I know nothing of this kid. It seems that maybe it’d been a lazy link, but it’s just so random as to surely have something in it, maybe a scout watched him.


Outgoing

Ishmael Miller
Following his loan at Yeovil it looks likely that the Glovers may well come back in for the big striker. Miller has only a short while left on his contract, but Yeovil surely can’t match what we are paying him (believed to be £16k a week) so it would possibly loan till the summer. At which point we don’t care as this waste of moneys contract will have expired.

Matt Derbyshire
Doncaster are being linked with the perennial sub. Derbyshire is getting quite a lot of action from the bench but like Miller he has high wages and an expiring deal. Should we get rid his wages might be able to fund 2/3 incoming players, or even a Premiership one. Despite that goal versus Leeds I would gladly see him move on. His time is up here.

Derbyshire
Karl Darlow
Being linked with a host of Premiership clubs, and supposedly going to be scouted by Liverpool this coming week. Darlow has been consistent, and we wouldn’t be willing to sell, BUT every player has his price and should a silly offer be received then we’d have to entertain it Also Darlow might lose his focus and have his head turned like Lee Camp formerly did.


Jamaal Lascelles
Lascelles
Like Darlow being linked with top flight clubs. Also rumoured to be getting scouted in upcoming weeks. Lascelles has been linked with the top flight for years (at same time as Bamford was) and could well be attract the interest of top clubs. Like Darlow we don’t need to sell but he might also have had his head turned or receive an offer of silly money. That said if we sell one we won’t sell the other.

Saturday, January 18, 2014

Twitter Idiots - 18-01-2014

Theres been a barrage of idiocy out there since Christmas, so I decided to bring this back up to point and laugh at the idiots out there. Because frankly it's funny.

Lets go back to near the start of the year to Carlton Palmer



Yes Carlton, nice way to try and deflect your stupidity by trying to suggest whilst someone anyone is ill we shouldn't mock you for being an idiot. But you were.

Ahh Flagman, claiming we're obsessed whilst always tweeting about us. The irony


A game on ITV, at 12pm on a Sunday.. Yeah can't understand why.



The fact you fail to equate that the whole of the Championship and League One weren't after him either, but anyway yeah lets just bid on a player because he did well before but has't been able to maintain form.



One mistake ages ago and that should be reason enough to get shot of? It's more than a little harsh. Never mind the awful grammar.

Ah it's another Hannah howler


So melodramatic. Thats about todays Blackburn game by the way.

Heres another special. @seanfromenderby is such a gift for this column but this week he's been better then ever. Constantly in meltdown.


what?


To be fair, both this pair of quotes about Wes are just weird and completely ridiculous.

Maybe he was just being emotional



No he is just a retard.




And this is just weird.

Finally.


Because a cringeworthy appeal to Fawaz that begs to sign a player is going to work. Never mind Billy being in control of targets, lets have a chairman who takes advice off random people on Twitter. All mangers would love that.a

Wednesday, January 15, 2014

Double Departure

As we previously said on 24-7 Khaled al-Rashidi has left the club. We said a few weeks ago, taken from tweets from Kuwait that said as much that seemed to fly under many radars.
It'll be no loss to Forest, al-Rashidi never played a game and never sounded like he was going to break through, and the news he has left is no surprise.

Another none surprise is that Nathanial Chalobah has returned to Chelsea after his loan period with the club. His time with the club was somewhat mixed. He started slowly and poorly. He soon started putting in some better performances, but the damage was kind of done. Chalobah seemed to be somewhat indifferent to performing to a high level, which is a problem with young loanee's.

Chalobah might well reappear on loan in the Championship quickly, and will be looking to make quick moves to cement a holding midfielder, though Guy Moussi has returned. "Nate" did grab a couple of goals. al-Rashidi never achieved anything..

Forest Look-a-likes 6

It's back!!! Forest lookalikes! It's been about 18 months since we did this. We have a new batch of lookalikes featuring Forest players.

So without further ado!!

Harry from Dumb and Dumber and Dan Harding

Adnan Januzaj and Chris Cohen
 

Jamie Mackie and Matt Damon

 Andriy Pyatov (Ukraine keeper) and Darius Henderson


Got any others? Then tell us below or go on our pages on either Twitter or Facebook and tell us there and we may include them next time.

Monday, January 6, 2014

Transfer Gossip Round Up - 7th January

Well here we are in our second instalment in this window of a roundup of transfer gossip. As previously this is not news and we aren’t trying to make it, but merely commenting on the latest rumours to go round. Again we categorise them as likely, made up, or living in cloud cuckoo land


The Believable

Jordan Rhodes
as we reported last time Rhodes name is still doing the rounds and we are still being linked. That said I still can’t see him coming here rather than a Premiership club. Rather than risk being stuck in this division longer, I’d think he’d stick at Blackburn till summer than evaluate his future before moving to a Premiership club, rather than risk another Championship clubs chances of going up.


Nakhi Wells
And as before Wells is being linked. Apparently the odds on him moving to Forest dropped, which I found staggering, because I had no idea any bookmaker would even be doing any odds on something as fringe interest as this. Remains a good likely target

Kris Boyd
A new name for the list is an old name, in so far as he has played for the club before in 2011. The Scotsman newspaper has linked him with us again, as his contract is expiring in the summer. For me he is an upgrade on Darius Henderson. I can understand that Billy knows his man and might be interested, so it’s possible and it could be cut price due to contact expiries.
Boyd

Matty Fryatt
Another rumour not going away is Matty Fryatt who was linked in loan window before going to Sheffield Wednesday. Fryatt would be available for £500k but any deal might rely on relations remaining good over the Jack Hobbs deal. It’s completely believable. However we may have moved focus elsewhere.



Nicky Maynard
Linked on Sky Sports website with the news he is likely to be allowed to go on loan for rest of season; we are a number of teams being linked with the striker. We’ve been linked before so it makes sense. And a loan deal might be best.
Maynard

The 'I’m Just Going to Link a Player Who “Might” be Available'.

Alexander Buttner
Being linked on the sole premise I’d imagine that United seem extremely keen on another left back as well as Evra, be it Baines or Coentrao. If they do get one the indication is Buttner may go out on loan. This is all conjecture and guesswork, and has absolutely no basis whatsoever. That said. You never know.

Buttner


Danny Ings
Isn’t going to be happening but hasn’t stopped one or two accounts or sites suggesting it’s possible. Ings would be possibly believable, but at a huge cost and likely would go to the Premier League rather than move sideways.

F.A. Cup Glory

Well we all by now know the result and if you don't what rock were you hiding beneath for the last 24 hours, but a glorious televised 5-0 for Forest versus an admittedly under strength West Ham saw Forest sail through the Fourth Round.
Paterson

Forest saw the return of Moussi to the line up for Vaughan and Paterson of course in the team on the other flank to Abdoun for Mackie. Save for that the team was pretty much the same as played over Christmas. 

To say things started well is an understatement and from the off we looked the better team. We took a relatively early lead when Paterson was fouled in the area and Abdoun snatched the ball to take the penalty ahead of the likes of Reid and Lansbury who had scored penalties before this season.

Well I said to my friends when he stepped up that I was worried he'd try something stupid. He of course did. One assumes the keeper hadnt been aware of Abdoun or he might have guessed he'd try a "Panenka" penalty. It was almost predictable. Had it been saved he'd have looked monumentally stupid, instead he pulled it off and was acclaimed by some on the net as a genius.

The rest of the half was pretty much us having more of the ball and creating half chances, but the best other chance of the half fell to Ravel Morrison for West Ham whose free kick was well flicked over the bar by the hand of Darlow.

In the second half we overcame a dodgy period to go and complete the rout of West Ham. Jamie Paterson came of age on a Forest shirt with a hat trick of quality and a little bit of luck. His first was a low drilled shot into the corner from a Halford knock down, the second was deflected in from a defender into the bottom right corner, and his third and final goal he collected the ball out wide, ran across the edge of the area and finished into the corner again fora glorious hat trick.

Andy Reid finished the rout with a goal after a cut back from Abdoun and finished into the top of the net. This didn't flatter us at all. It was deserved and I felt sorry for the West Ham fans who must have started so early in the day to come up and watch something so abject. This lasted a short while. I know that when the tables are turned the sympathy is so slow in coming apart from the mocking. 

The attention is all more about Allardyce in today's media, will he hang on to his job after this? What does it mean for their transfer activity? It is less about what it means for Forest, or how good we are, but that's what gets the attention. Not the smaller club, but the Premiership sides travails.. That's the way of the world I guess.
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