Double Injury KO For Reds

The news last night that Henri Lansbury would be out with 3 months with a horrendous sounding fractured lower back. It is understood he sustained the injury in the game versus Yeovil. It had me racking my brain thinking of exactly what and when he did. I can recall an early nasty looking coming together with their full back McAllister but this was right at the start of the game.

But that’s beside the point; the main thing is the huge loss that this represents as Lansbury has been integral to so much of what we have done right. The combination of him, Reid and Vaughan for me started to turn this season around, and without them, we may lack that bit of extra quality that could see us go up automatically. Considering we are already seeing fixture pile up. Extra pressure on those players remaining who may have seen rotation and resting could bring about a breaking point.

What it represents is extra pressure on the existing players, and also Billy and Fawaz to try and secure a player to fill in for the prolonged period of absence for Vaughan and Lansbury. Dorrans name has already appeared, as has Guedioura's. A few are even touting Jonathan Williams also from palace name around as they have announced they are looking into a loan for him as he won't get much playing time with Ledley's arrival at palace. Wes Hoolahan who has completely fallen out at Norwich and has promotion experience is another obvious potential target that said he's potentially in temperamental mood, but that does mean he has something to prove. He would be a player to get forward, and might not fir that deeper role, but at times like this in this injury crisis you have to look at what the best available options out there. Is he better than the alternatives already in place?

Moussi has shone again recently, and one has to think he will be stepping up to play more after looking earlier this year like his Forest career was all but over. Majewski will surely have a strong chance to claim a spot and see Reid drop deeper out of necessity. Any regular reader knows that I get extremely frustrated by Majewski, his lack of consistency being a major bugbear. Greening was on the bench against Preston and this might well occur a few more times. Whether it could mean playing time for a youngster coming through from the ranks is also a possibility. Osborne has appeared on the bench, but he's more of an attacking midfielder, David Morgan who always looked likeliest to break through for the past few years is on loan at Tamworth, and only making their bench. Jack Blake is a name mentioned before and he had a period with Mansfield on loan in October. So it makes the loan market look far more likely.

Lansbury will be back. In time for maybe the playoffs, as will Vaughan (and maybe Cohen) so it's not as if their seasons are over. It will take time for them to reintegrate and get back form when they do return. I'll be honest, both Vaughan and Lansbury's injuries are new ones to me, I have no idea of the long term impacts of whether they will be prone to such injuries again, or if it could have an impact on other areas of the body. With any injury for a period of time there is always risk of it flaring up in some other way. For now though, we just have to get through these next months without a major talisman for the team.

 

The Benefits of a Good Cup Run

I don't like tempting fate in this way, but I feel compelled to put this down into the site. I have spoken before about how I believe a cup run is to be embraced and not something to be seen as a hindrance to your season.

So I see this as a wonderful opportunity to do something in the cup. I am not suggesting win it, not for a second, but the way the draw has opened up for us offers a really good chance to reach the Quarter Finals for the first time since 1996 when we lost to Villa. The following year we went out to Chesterfield who went on to the Semis in Round 5, and since then? Well not a lot of anything, save for a run to the 5^th Round and taking Spurs to replay before exiting, (and being relegated) (Another aside, our league Cup record is even worse, having not made the last 8 since 1993/4 season and limping out to Tranmere)

I am not, and will not belittle the League One sides of Preston and Sheffield United, who now stand between us and the last 8. Either team could beat us, with the Blades accounting for two Premiership teams, and Preston already holding us at home. To assume we'd win either game is folly. They could take us out, and I wouldn't be THAT surprised.

Once you reach the last 8 well things get interesting, considering that the big 4 left in the competition are drawn against each other in the next round, if you make the last 8, there are only really 2 big sides left in that draw. The chances of a more favourable draw increase, in ways that I don't think have happened for us in years. It's not a strange achievement for Championship teams to make the final. Cardiff and Millwall have been there, Bradford from league 2 made the League Cup final, so this isn't all pie in the sky. Imagine if in the last 8, the remaining top sides draw each other, and we draw either Wednesday or Charlton are completely beatable if you draw them, or even anyone else further down the Premier League.

At that  stage it's all possible.

 

But to be honest, a cup run is a great catalyst for a season. look at Bradford. I've spoken before too about even reaching the final can be experience for reaching the Wembley stage in the playoffs.

Also winning begets winning. Creating that winning atmosphere can only be a good thing, and the good feeling it would give the fans would surely seep onto the pitch.

 

Go for it tonight boys is basically what I'm saying. The Cup isn't a hindrance.

Where We're At - A Squad Appraisal

So now the squad is all put together, and although there are potential for loans when the loan window reopens, the anticipated activity there will be much slimmer, with some potential injury cover being the only signings we'd expect. The overall picture is very good, especially as held on the main assets as well as strengthened.

Goalkeeper
We have the quality of the young up and coming Darlow coupled with an experienced older hand in de Vries acting as cover at Forest. It feels better in terms of ability than for a couple of years, when Camp and Smith were both (largely) reliable keepers. Not quite the battles we occasionally used to have but its stable, as in the past we chopped and changed a little. I would love to see Darlow cement himself as a legend in goal as since Crossley it feels like we change keeper every 2 years or so (with a Beasant, Ward, Gerrard, Smith, Camp progression line with few other limited time performers) Evtimov as a third man to cover means we shouldn't ever need him, and he can continue to develop with no limelight or pressure.

Darlow

Defence

The strength in this position is compared to the previous season frightening. We have 2 or 3 bodies for every position, so only the worst run of injuries or suspensions would cause the problems we had till recently. The problem, if you can call it a problem is deciding the best line up. One assumes of monetary value alone its Hobbs and Wilson, should they both be fit, but Lascelles has stepped up admirably, and Collins has been a capable deputy for the last few weeks. We could even put Halford back into the defence as well before we even mention the new boy Gomis. The full back berths have 2 people for each berth, with Jara and Lichaj at right back, and Fox and Harding at left back. This is unheard of for cover in those roles for Forest, especially the old left back spot, and right back looks especially strong in depth with 2 internationals vying for a spot. As said though, what's the best set up? You'd have to probably say Jara, Wilson, Hobbs and Fox, though anyone else stepping in there would be good enough.

Hobbs and Lascelles

Midfield
Like defence, we have such a strength in depth in midfield. The central roles with Reid, Lansbury, and Vaughan having competition from Moussi, Majewski, and with Cohen long term out means there is competition for places. That’s if we go with a midfield 3 as we have been doing for a while, there's even more of a battle if we go with 2. Push onto the wings and Abdoun, Mackie and Paterson are all hitting form and forcing selection issues for the manager. A few of the strikers can drop off that central role to play the advanced midfielder, (Cox especially) meaning the versatility of some players is a bonus. We even can add Greening to the mix, even if he is largely a spent force and likely to never play for us again. This is the only position injuries could really force our hand, but Moussi being back in form means we have extra strength. Jara can also fill in at midfield if needs be too, and Lichaj at right back wouldn’t be weakening the team, so there's that option too.

Lansbury, Paterson and Abdoun

Attack

The attacking options are numerous if not always reliable. Djebbour offers something new and we're not fully sure exactly yet, other than scoring from half a yard versus Yeovil (already better than Findlay then eh?) But bear in mind we have a few options. Cox has been first choice for the last 18 months, and his return isn't great, that said he has been scoring since Christmas, grabbing a lot better ratio of goals per game that he had before. Henderson is as he always has been with Forest, an alternative approach. Physical games are we unleash him and although not always effective he gives defenders something else to think about. Derbyshire, aside from THAT Leeds goal is a waste of time, when he comes on he mindlessly runs about a bit. Tudgay might as well have his back packed ready for a loan move, and Blackstock, heavily out of favour and form before going to Leeds is now out the picture with an injury anyway. If all fails just put Halford up there again, though Mackie plays effectively through the middle too.

Cox and Henderson with Paterson

The Manager
Billy has been backed this window in a way he never got before. That should firstly keep him happy, but secondly give him the tools he wants. It works both ways though. I always thought Billy worked better when he was up against it, backs to the wall, and that’s why post January we'd usually go on a good run. Now, I'm not so sure that mentality would exist, we have a new one to look for. I suppose we could try and get that second spot against the odds, but it Billy has new motivational challenges, with having a large squad to keep happy, rather than the previous attempts with tight knit squads pulling in the same direction. I suppose that’s why many of the spare extra players will get shipped out on loan, so that there aren't unhappy players bringing morale down through lack of action.

Billy

Overall
The squad depth compared to what we have had before is unbelievable. There has always been area that we were less strong in, but now the weak links have been removed. In every squad I can remember in a long time, there was always a position in need of improvement, and now I am not so sure. It augurs well for the rest of the season. We have strength everywhere, injuries are not such a worry, and ready place replacements are there should we need them. We can rotate if players get tired, and so hopefully there will be no playoffs burn out if we go that route. We should stay string all the way till May. Hopefully all of Fawaz investments will pay off and he can see his team in the top flight.

Fawaz

January 2014 Transfer Window Roundup

It’s been a glorious transfer window for Forest, used to maybe one insipid free transfer or a loan; we have strengthened with 5 new players coming in.

This is more than what we had targeted and coupled with keeping the existing squad together it has to be deemed a success. The only departure saw Miller return to Yeovil but he was peripheral at best anyway.

So what do we know about the new recruits and what will they bring? Here’s a round up

Hobbs

Jack Hobbs
In what was on-going on off saga we finally at the death got our man in Jack Hobbs. The central defender had been an ever present before he got injured, and was then recalled by Hull in an obvious attempt to force our hand to dip into the pockets and sign him. Under pressure from Reading, Wigan and Leicester Hobbs always said he was our favoured choice of destination.
We know of course that Hobbs is a strong central defender and this was somewhat illustrated versus Watford on Thursday night. We know exactly what we got with Jack, and that’s a quality central defender.

David Vaughan
We also know what we are getting with Vaughan, who completely changed our midfield for the better when he arrived. The interplay and balance provided by the 3 of him, Lansbury and Reid started a lot of what has been good lately. He made the deep lying midfielder role his own and shone for his initial loan period with the club. His signing will be vital for the promotion bid.

Danny Fox
Considering we have been after him at left back for a while signals our intent here. With Cohen injured and Harding form intermittent getting in a quality recognised left back with top level experience at Celtic is a major coup and will be help us no end defensively, and hopefully attacking wise too, with interchange down the left.

Djebbour

Rafik Djebbour
An interesting signing and rare one for a club to buying in relatively older players from abroad. Djebbour has come in for a cut price from what we were going to pay in the summer. He offers another option up front and must be an upgrade at least from the likes of Tudgay, Derbyshire and Henderson are aren’t players to push you to the Premier League. Apart from that I don’t want to base opinions on YouTube videos as I could make vids that make me look good. Be interesting to see how quickly he adapts

Gomis

Kevin Gomis
Being a loan it feels relatively pressure free. If he succeeds we can hopefully make it permanent like with Hobbs, if he fails, then it’s not financially cost us much (though what it could cost on a pitch is only one the future can answer) Gomis has top level experience in Ligue 1. Apart rom that I know nothing.

Twitter Idiots: Derby Special

Heres a little tip in life. When 2 days previously you came from 2 goals behind to win a game, you'd think you'd excercise restraint in mocking a team who have just gone 2 goals down, even more so a main rival. Even more so when a tranche of said rival fans now losing 2-0 had been ripped apart for laughing at them being 2-0 down on Twitter.

But not in these cases. Bravo idiots. Thanks for the material.

On the other hand, around half of the Tweets I saved have been since deleted by people trying to cover their tracks and so won't work. If I'd been at home I'd have screen saved them. Ah Well shame, these will have to do.

Thought that 4/1 about Watford tonight was too good to miss #doublesweet #dcfc
— Phil Ruston (@PRuston) January 30, 2014

How did that work out for you? Hope you spend the winnings wisely

Forest 0-2 Watford #mindthegap #dcfc
— Harry Briggs (@hbriggsofficial) January 30, 2014

Let's all laugh at Forest! #dcfc #nffc
— Anton Roe (@AROE77) January 30, 2014

Let's all laugh at Forest, let's all laugh at Forest LA LA LA LA! #NFFC #DCFC
— Benjamin (@BJSmith92) January 30, 2014

Yes, Lets all laugh. At us winning. Brilliant

Oooops has that bubble burst #nffc #wfc #dcfc
— Rob DCFC Holden (@RobHolden1970) January 30, 2014

No, that bubble is still going fine thanks

Andy reid wins 'Fatty' award.... Wins a chocolate football. Fat pig. Oink. #dcfc
— Dave (@dave1884) January 30, 2014

I thought andy reid had lost weight... How fuckin wrong was i.. What a fat tube of lard.. Cmon watford. #dcfc #WFC
— Dave (@dave1884) January 30, 2014

Yeah that Man of the Match award says Hi

Pessimism, Forest and Twitter

It’s been an entertaining few days, if you like to subject yourself to the fluctuating moods of the average Forest fan on Twitter. It seems a great many seem to get too involved and can’t bring about any detachment from the on-going situation at the club.

Is this an indicator of a lack of something else to do in some people’s life? Possibly. Is it indicative of today’s world where with on-going 24 hours news and social media we have a great many potential sources of information at our disposal? Yes. And that a great many of the movers and shakers are contactable speaks volumes.

But I have spoken before about this. The nature of new media and its influences on fans expectations and the exchange of ideas and information instantly rather than previous forms mean we always want these answers. Plus we now have transfer windows which drive this kind of activity in a timed frenzy.

But what’s apparent is there is a great deal of pessimism at the core of many fans. And weirdly they seem to revel in it. It’s almost as if some fans can’t wait for a deal to collapse so they can tweet their disappointment or the usual array of told you so’s. There’s no patience and the simple skill of sitting it out and waiting for what happens.

Djebbour

The transfer of Rafik Djebbour has been a typical example since it came to light again this week. Because it’s been on the cards for so long and seems drawn out (international transfers often are) fans instead of waiting for the confirmation immediately start seeing some kind of dark arts at play.

Couple that with that transpired with Hobbs and you have a perfect storm of impatience. Hobbs as well know has left and we had a long piece on here on Friday all about it. The fact we said we’d sorted out a deal for most fans meant it was a done deal forgetting personal terms which it transpired were not agreed. Hobbs realised he could get more money elsewhere, and as any of us would do in our careers held out for more money.

SO it didn’t go through. So because of this example some now hold Fawaz accountable, despite him doing all he could save for smashing the wage structure and then all that involves with possible ramifications with other players inflating their worth.

So instead of seeing the positive that we could be about to sign another player elsewhere in another position, the wailing and the gnashing starts. Because clearly EVERY transfer will go the same way now, despite there not being much evidence. People will cite George Boyd of course but that became obvious there were other games being played there.

Why would Fawaz be “lying” again, would you not think he was chastened by his other experience and only tweet when sure. International clearance can take time (and contrary to other reports Djebbour does not need a work permit, he was born in Grenoble, France) and any smaller details of the deal have to be sorted between Olympiakos and Forest.

Why am I talking about this and pessimism? The following tweets and comments will best illustrate my point.

Olympiakos striker Kostas Mitroglou in talks with Fulham... Will they sell 2 strikers? Can see Djebbour deal falling through. #NFFC
— Lewis Smith (@lsmith_nffc84) January 28, 2014

Reckon Djebbour will be a flop, anyone else get the same feeling? #nffc
— VIVA DAN HARDING (@VivaDanHarding) January 28, 2014

im scared bc the djebbour signing has been officially confirmed yet and I cant trust fawaz' tweets after hobbs
— Charlie (@CharlieAC7) January 28, 2014

Djebbour still not 'signed', clearly not going through completely smooth
— Jake Travers (@traversnffc) January 28, 2014

Just a small sample. And although most of it isn'

t malicious there are seeds of doubt in peoples mind that for some people go from acorns to oaks in record time.

What is apparent is there is a heightened sense of entitlement amongst fans. It's not always healthy. I have no problem with ambition and desire. Where it goes wrong is when fans demand too much.

We will look further at fans demands and what people perceive in regards that in a couple of days.

Fawaz - Damned if he Tweets, Damned if he Doesn't

It is commonly agreed by a range of fans that to have your chairman as a visible presence eon the internet has been a nice bonus. We have talked before about the fact the difference between Forest under the al-Hasawi regime is a different animal to that of under the Doughty days.

Fawaz though has almost created a rod for his back by trying to keep fans included in the various stages of the transfer process. Now there is confusion with some people between what agreeing a deal and concluding a transfer is. Just because we agreed a deal with a club doesn’t mean the signing is completed. There are myriad things to go wrong. How the deal is be paid, what instalments are paid at what tie, the deal with the player and of course the agent.

So when Fawaz said we had agreed a deal for Hobbs there was all that yet to thrashed out. Now it seems as mentioned the other day it was personal terms with the player that was the stumbling block.  So when Fawaz gets accused of lying by some people about this deal, that person is basically showing a complete lack of basic understanding of how things go down.

Now Fawaz has tweeted that we agreed personal terms with Djebbour and mentioned we just need to thrash out deals with his parent club Olympiakos a lot of fans went into a frenzy about how we are announcing deals before the deal is done. Now maybe Fawaz is being a little premature, but it is a sign that we are trying to do business and are out there agreeing deals. The nature of such a deal was that Olympiakos clearly want to sell, as they nearly reached a deal in the summer, so now we agreed a deal with the player and as said before have to sort out the minute details of the transfer insofar as how much we will be paying and when.

This is where the second part of the article comes in. The fact that people seem angry that we are announcing deals before they are done and could collapse and saying it’s unprofessional. The same people up in arms are often the very same moaning about the lack of news or lack of business in the market. It’s because of these types of tweets about the lack of business and those people who think the moment Jan 1^st arrives there should be a revolving door of players coming into the club that moves Fawaz announces these things to keep fans happy, appeased, and buying tickets. It’s an on-going cycle.

But the same pressures can these same problems we experienced, that we announce something about to be done before the ink is dry and everything goes wrong. This then cause fan to accuse the club of a lack of professionalism, and that we need extra help, but if those people weren’t constantly in Fawaz ear he wouldn’t feel this need. Additionally I dread to think of what direct messages on Twitter Fawaz receives from all sorts suggesting deals.

If only fans just let the club get on with doing what they do. There is also an element of everyone believing their opinion has to be heard. And there’s nothing wrong with that, but there’s a lot of who think if they shout loudest their opinion matters most.

Deals will go through when they do. What we don’t need is over the top zealous fans getting on the high horses and creating a bad atmosphere. Fawaz tweets because he genuinely wants to try and keep us informed and appease fan who might be agitated. Don’t them use this as a rope to hang him from when it doesn’t happen.

The Jack Hobbs Debacle

For the whole of January I have restrained from having my say on whats been happening with Hobbs. Following the too and fro about where his future is lying and what or wasn't the deal we had in place for the central defender was.

Until today.

Today it has all reached a head. Hobbs was recalled by Hull, as we all know by now. We also all know that last week Fawaz tweeted he had reached a deal with Hull for the defender. So something in that time has changed or gone wrong.

Here is where the conjecture starts in earnest.

On the one hand there are those who have seen this for what it potentially is. Hull have a defensive cover crisis with the James Chester injury. They have a defender very much in form who they had a right to recall from his loan as there was no permanent deal in place. They have done as much today. They are within their rights, he is their property.

Then there are those who believe there are more sinister forces at work in all of this. That Hull are forcing our hand to go for a deal now instead of all the wrangling that has been going off up till now. They want us to fork out that fee now, rather than the potential arrangements (believed to a be a fee payable once h completes his loan to avoid paying a percentage to Leicester in sell on fees.) Again they are within their rights to do so, but the waters of how morale this get a little murky.

There is also an argument to say that Hobbs stock has risen and when he negotiated with Forest on the deal it wasn't the same terms he had agreed in the summer on the longevity of the deal. Reading were willing to pay more. Hobbs therefore wanted to be paid more (and again rightly so, but then reneging on a gentleman's agreement it seems) And therefore we were not able to finalise a deal meaning he returns to Hull.

All of which must be of interest to Reading. Surely they will make a new move.,

Unless of course this was all a legit move to bring back cover for injuries, in which case it's all academic.

Whats apparent is we should have stopped wrangling and just got a deal in place, but then there's new arguments on trying to get value or just stumping large pots of cash for deals which might not be best value.

Confused? I am. It all makes sense but thinking off all the various permutations and consequences of this just addles to brain.

What is apparent is Hobbs is now no longer at present a Forest player.

Transfer Rumour Roundup

Here is a roundup of the latest stuff doing the rounds… Ins and outs this time

Incoming

Graham

Danny Graham

Strong rumours are we are to sign Danny Graham from Sunderland currently on loan from Sunderland. Graham has had a tough couple of years in front of goal and Sunderland might think dropping a level will be able to instigate some form. Graham had better days with Watford and Swansea so has good form in the past and in the Championship. He would be a good signing, if allowed time to find his feet.

Chris Baird
Northern Irish defender who was on a short team deal with Reading which has expired. Due to injury Reading have delayed offering an extension. Therefore he is a free agent. What with a number of defensive injuries Davies might see him as more than adequate coverage in defence. It could mean Lascelles is off, but I think that unlikely.  Baird is versatile so can play in midfield and at all full back which would be of interest to Forest. For freebie he’d be a wonderful signing.

Bradley

Sonny Bradley
Sonny is a 22 year defender for Portsmouth who this week has been linked. He was released by Hull in the summer and has been playing in League Two for struggling Pompey this season. Being from the north (Hull) he may further a move from the south coast closer to home. To be honest I know nothing of this kid. It seems that maybe it’d been a lazy link, but it’s just so random as to surely have something in it, maybe a scout watched him.

Outgoing

Ishmael Miller
Following his loan at Yeovil it looks likely that the Glovers may well come back in for the big striker. Miller has only a short while left on his contract, but Yeovil surely can’t match what we are paying him (believed to be £16k a week) so it would possibly loan till the summer. At which point we don’t care as this waste of moneys contract will have expired.

Matt Derbyshire
Doncaster are being linked with the perennial sub. Derbyshire is getting quite a lot of action from the bench but like Miller he has high wages and an expiring deal. Should we get rid his wages might be able to fund 2/3 incoming players, or even a Premiership one. Despite that goal versus Leeds I would gladly see him move on. His time is up here.

Derbyshire

Karl Darlow
Being linked with a host of Premiership clubs, and supposedly going to be scouted by Liverpool this coming week. Darlow has been consistent, and we wouldn’t be willing to sell, BUT every player has his price and should a silly offer be received then we’d have to entertain it Also Darlow might lose his focus and have his head turned like Lee Camp formerly did.

Jamaal Lascelles

Lascelles

Like Darlow being linked with top flight clubs. Also rumoured to be getting scouted in upcoming weeks. Lascelles has been linked with the top flight for years (at same time as Bamford was) and could well be attract the interest of top clubs. Like Darlow we don’t need to sell but he might also have had his head turned or receive an offer of silly money. That said if we sell one we won’t sell the other.

Twitter Idiots - 18-01-2014

Theres been a barrage of idiocy out there since Christmas, so I decided to bring this back up to point and laugh at the idiots out there. Because frankly it's funny.

Lets go back to near the start of the year to Carlton Palmer

You forest fans Schumacher is in a induced a coma fighting for is life and I abbreviate in a tweet and it causes this pathetic sorry
— Carlton Palmer (@carltonpalmer3) January 4, 2014

Yes Carlton, nice way to try and deflect your stupidity by trying to suggest whilst someone anyone is ill we shouldn't mock you for being an idiot. But you were.

Ahh Flagman, claiming we're obsessed whilst always tweeting about us. The irony

Seeing as I'm getting msgs..... - under half full, 14,000, and you beat Leyton Orient reserves 5-0. You belong back in league 1. #obsessed
— nick webster (@dcfc_flagman) January 5, 2014

A game on ITV, at 12pm on a Sunday.. Yeah can't understand why.

We was linked with madden last window now he is joining Scunthorpe league 2 300k for 300k we should take a chance on him #nffc
— James (@Jamsmitchell) January 9, 2014

The fact you fail to equate that the whole of the Championship and League One weren't after him either, but anyway yeah lets just bid on a player because he did well before but has't been able to maintain form.

Hope we sell Gillet. Especially after what he away at Derby #GetRid #nffc
— Luke Dennis (@lukedennis68) January 9, 2014

One mistake ages ago and that should be reason enough to get shot of? It's more than a little harsh. Never mind the awful grammar.

Ah it's another Hannah howler

If we can avoid a 7-0 hammering, I'll regard it as a good day. #nffc
— Hannah Dexter (@hannahforest) January 17, 2014

So melodramatic. Thats about todays Blackburn game by the way.

Heres another special. @seanfromenderby is such a gift for this column but this week he's been better then ever. Constantly in meltdown.

Big Wes Morgan signs contract 4 another year. nos where his bread is butered neva goin back 2 shite Forest #NFFC . #LCFC deffo goin BPL
— sean (@seanfromenderby) January 16, 2014

what?

@MartinBiddulph u forced him out cos hes black. no ur game forest. Chalobah had same problem with #NFFC fans
— sean (@seanfromenderby) January 16, 2014

To be fair, both this pair of quotes about Wes are just weird and completely ridiculous.

Maybe he was just being emotional

@Green_Adz87 @_dmedley mate thats racist agenst the downsyndromes ain't it
— sean (@seanfromenderby) January 17, 2014

No he is just a retard.

@Green_Adz87 @N17RLC @fawaz_alhasawi1 LOL if u so good why u fans want Billy sacked... u see how demolish #dcfc n they way better than #nffc
— sean (@seanfromenderby) January 17, 2014

And this is just weird.

Finally.

Mr @fawaz_alhasawi1 sorry but @ConnorWickham10 is young and English with Great potential #signhimup #nffc
— alexander berridge (@alexbizzle80) January 17, 2014

Because a cringeworthy appeal to Fawaz that begs to sign a player is going to work. Never mind Billy being in control of targets, lets have a chairman who takes advice off random people on Twitter. All mangers would love that.a

Double Departure

As we previously said on 24-7 Khaled al-Rashidi has left the club. We said a few weeks ago, taken from tweets from Kuwait that said as much that seemed to fly under many radars.
It'll be no loss to Forest, al-Rashidi never played a game and never sounded like he was going to break through, and the news he has left is no surprise.

Another none surprise is that Nathanial Chalobah has returned to Chelsea after his loan period with the club. His time with the club was somewhat mixed. He started slowly and poorly. He soon started putting in some better performances, but the damage was kind of done. Chalobah seemed to be somewhat indifferent to performing to a high level, which is a problem with young loanee's.

Chalobah might well reappear on loan in the Championship quickly, and will be looking to make quick moves to cement a holding midfielder, though Guy Moussi has returned. "Nate" did grab a couple of goals. al-Rashidi never achieved anything..

Forest Look-a-likes 6

It's back!!! Forest lookalikes! It's been about 18 months since we did this. We have a new batch of lookalikes featuring Forest players.

So without further ado!!

Harry from Dumb and Dumber and Dan Harding

Adnan Januzaj and Chris Cohen

 

Jamie Mackie and Matt Damon

 Andriy Pyatov (Ukraine keeper) and Darius Henderson

Got any others? Then tell us below or go on our pages on either Twitter or Facebook and tell us there and we may include them next time.

Transfer Gossip Round Up - 7th January

Well here we are in our second instalment in this window of a roundup of transfer gossip. As previously this is not news and we aren’t trying to make it, but merely commenting on the latest rumours to go round. Again we categorise them as likely, made up, or living in cloud cuckoo land

The Believable

Jordan Rhodes
as we reported last time Rhodes name is still doing the rounds and we are still being linked. That said I still can’t see him coming here rather than a Premiership club. Rather than risk being stuck in this division longer, I’d think he’d stick at Blackburn till summer than evaluate his future before moving to a Premiership club, rather than risk another Championship clubs chances of going up.

Nakhi Wells
And as before Wells is being linked. Apparently the odds on him moving to Forest dropped, which I found staggering, because I had no idea any bookmaker would even be doing any odds on something as fringe interest as this. Remains a good likely target

Kris Boyd

A new name for the list is an old name, in so far as he has played for the club before in 2011. The Scotsman newspaper has linked him with us again, as his contract is expiring in the summer. For me he is an upgrade on Darius Henderson. I can understand that Billy knows his man and might be interested, so it’s possible and it could be cut price due to contact expiries.

Boyd

Matty Fryatt

Another rumour not going away is Matty Fryatt who was linked in loan window before going to Sheffield Wednesday. Fryatt would be available for £500k but any deal might rely on relations remaining good over the Jack Hobbs deal. It’s completely believable. However we may have moved focus elsewhere.

Nicky Maynard

Linked on Sky Sports website with the news he is likely to be allowed to go on loan for rest of season; we are a number of teams being linked with the striker. We’ve been linked before so it makes sense. And a loan deal might be best.

Maynard

The 'I’m Just Going to Link a Player Who “Might” be Available'.

Alexander Buttner
Being linked on the sole premise I’d imagine that United seem extremely keen on another left back as well as Evra, be it Baines or Coentrao. If they do get one the indication is Buttner may go out on loan. This is all conjecture and guesswork, and has absolutely no basis whatsoever. That said. You never know.

Buttner

Danny Ings
Isn’t going to be happening but hasn’t stopped one or two accounts or sites suggesting it’s possible. Ings would be possibly believable, but at a huge cost and likely would go to the Premier League rather than move sideways.

F.A. Cup Glory

Well we all by now know the result and if you don't what rock were you hiding beneath for the last 24 hours, but a glorious televised 5-0 for Forest versus an admittedly under strength West Ham saw Forest sail through the Fourth Round.

Paterson

Forest saw the return of Moussi to the line up for Vaughan and Paterson of course in the team on the other flank to Abdoun for Mackie. Save for that the team was pretty much the same as played over Christmas. 

To say things started well is an understatement and from the off we looked the better team. We took a relatively early lead when Paterson was fouled in the area and Abdoun snatched the ball to take the penalty ahead of the likes of Reid and Lansbury who had scored penalties before this season.

Well I said to my friends when he stepped up that I was worried he'd try something stupid. He of course did. One assumes the keeper hadnt been aware of Abdoun or he might have guessed he'd try a "Panenka" penalty. It was almost predictable. Had it been saved he'd have looked monumentally stupid, instead he pulled it off and was acclaimed by some on the net as a genius.

The rest of the half was pretty much us having more of the ball and creating half chances, but the best other chance of the half fell to Ravel Morrison for West Ham whose free kick was well flicked over the bar by the hand of Darlow.

In the second half we overcame a dodgy period to go and complete the rout of West Ham. Jamie Paterson came of age on a Forest shirt with a hat trick of quality and a little bit of luck. His first was a low drilled shot into the corner from a Halford knock down, the second was deflected in from a defender into the bottom right corner, and his third and final goal he collected the ball out wide, ran across the edge of the area and finished into the corner again fora glorious hat trick.

Andy Reid finished the rout with a goal after a cut back from Abdoun and finished into the top of the net. This didn't flatter us at all. It was deserved and I felt sorry for the West Ham fans who must have started so early in the day to come up and watch something so abject. This lasted a short while. I know that when the tables are turned the sympathy is so slow in coming apart from the mocking. 

The attention is all more about Allardyce in today's media, will he hang on to his job after this? What does it mean for their transfer activity? It is less about what it means for Forest, or how good we are, but that's what gets the attention. Not the smaller club, but the Premiership sides travails.. That's the way of the world I guess.